10-19-2009, 03:30 PM
Hoofhurr Wrote:Tupac and the dixie chicks have more in common musically than Bach and Mozart? I disagree. More importantly Bach and Mozart are simply the most well known representatives from their respective classical genres and while they characterize those periods for modern listeners they certainly didn't create their music out of thin air. They were very much influenced by other musicians and the style of the time.
Yes they were influenced, actually Mozart was a big fan of Bach however you couldn't be more wrong about Tupac and the Dixie Chicks vs. Mozart and Bach. They are probably perfect examples of the questions I am asking.
Let me emphasize I am asking the question "Is Art Limited" not making the claim that it is.
Bach vs. Mozart:
Both are apples and oranges. Bach is the premier Baroque period musician and Mozart the the premier Romantic period musician. Bach may be the best writer of keyboard classical music of all time however the Baroque style was not built upon the chaos that the Mozart romantic period is full of.
Bach used multiple key changes to expand a single melody however he never went beyond the mandatory two key changes requirements for Baroque music. Mozart was not limited to fixed key changes and he was not limited by time signature requirements. Mozart could sustain changes over 7/8 to 3/4 time signatures over multiple keys.
To non musicians this is like comparing a automobile cumbustion engine to the jet engine. They both propel an object forward but that is almost all they have in common.
Tupac vs Dixie Chicks:
They both play music solely in a 4/4 time signature, they both play most of there music in a major key using a 1-3-5 chord progression or the occasional 1-4-5 blues progression. All of there compositions follow the same formats. Verse, Pre-chorus, Chorus, rinse and repeat. The most radical thing either of them do is the occasional modulation however the modulations still keep the same progressions.
It doesn't matter if it is Bon Jovi, Tupac or the Dixie Chicks. They all play the same kind of music. The only differences really is Tupac uses just a base and drums (well drum machine to be more accurate), Bon Jovi adds guitars and the Dixie Chicks add a fiddle or slide guitar.
If Mozart is the Jet Engine and Bach is the 72 Cuda Hemi, then Tupac/Dixie Chicks are the pink Schwinn bicycle with the pink streamers coming out of the handle bars.
Let me put this in a gaming term.
Bach and Mozart is like comparing EQ and WWII online. Yes they are both MMO's that we play on our computers but that is pretty much where the comparison ends.
Tupac and Dixie Chicks is like comparing EQ vs. an EQ only with WoW types of Avatars. If you dropped the WoW avatars into the old EQ game it would look totally different but it is still EQ. You could give Freeport or Oggok a face lift but the game is still essentially the same. People may enjoy the face lift but it is still EQ.
The premise of what I am asking is do Art Mediums play themselves out and does man only have so many artistic ideas?
Is the world of movies just putting out more EQ's only just spicing up Freeport? Is the world of photography just putting out more EQ's only with a new and fresh Oggok?
Vllad