10-20-2009, 02:46 PM
Hoofhurr Wrote:Hmm. Interesting points. Could music make a person who has no sad experiences in life feel sad? Or is music's capacity to evoke emotion intimately linked to a person's range of prior emotional experiences and their body chemistry?
Great question. I wonder how much of it is human programing. In today's world you associate music with pictures going back to Fantasia. Tocata and Fugue in D minor is played over every hollowween commercial so... That music inspires evil.
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The same goes back to Opera's from Mozart. Television isn't the only culpret here. People might be pre-programmed to spark the emotion based on assosiation and continued repeating of the same formula's.
This brings me back to the original question then. If these emotions are sparked by repeated use and association. Is this because we lack original idea's?
Breand Wrote:the funny thing is I Gotta Feeling might be the worst and unimaginative song ever written =)
In any event, I dont know enough about the creation of music to make a counter argument. I will say Radiohead stopped using chord progressions a long time ago. Maybe they are my one band that can defend the art of music.
Great point Breand.
I agree many people stopped using chord progressions in the 90's and now use repeated riffs instead. Music is de-evolving not evolving in the popular sect. In order to be different Marilyn Manson (sp) doesn't use chord progressions but the repeated use of a single riff. Unique but extremely simple. Hip, Hop does the same thing.
Has paintings and other mediums moved in the same direction? De-evolving the older the medium gets? What is next in music? Holding a single note for 3.5 minutes? Have movies begun to simplify in order to be original? What is the next big thing. The Three Stooges?
Slamz Wrote:I was also thinking that when it comes to popular music, art usually isn't the point - entertainment is.
Another great point. As entertainment goes that brings in a whole different slew of things that distorts things like Music. In that sense like Hoof linked, music has become like MMO's. There is a formula to writing successful hits. Follow that formula and you will increase your chances of succeeding. This goes all the way back to before Motown.
The other problem with production cost and formula writing in the music world is the record company corruption of music. Record companies do many things to fuck music up but that is another subject altogether.
In the days of Mozart he was faced with the same challeges. They had to follow certain rules in order to be considered hits. If they didn't follow them it was difficult for the public to hear your music and therefore make money.
Money and original idea's don't mix in any medium.
You other post I totally agree with. If you look historically though at other mediums are you sure we have an unlimited amount of stories?
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